Last night it took me awhile to get to sleep, and as a result, many thoughts ran through my mind. Or maybe that's why I couldn't sleep ;) Anyway, I've got a couple different posts running through my mind, and also at least one more issue (besides the following one) to research out, but for now, I'll try to stick to the issue I mentioned in the previous post. Please read this with an open mind, and completely through before making any judgement. I would appreciate any comments, opinions you may have, but keep in mind that any critical comments will not be posted. I pray that God uses this post to enlighten you, encourage you, strenghten you, and give maybe someone some answers that maybe they have been looking for. What you are about to read is my interpretation/opinion over an issue that could be very contraversial, carefully researched out and based on the principles in God's word as well as from the historical information gathered from commentators and Bible dictionaries. So, if you're ready, here's what I've thought out and worked through.
Scripture: Deuteronomy 22:5 "The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God."
All my life I have been taught that this means (American) women are to wear dresses/skirts and men are to wear jeans/pants. (Each country and culture has it's own dress "code" for men and women.) Ever since grade school even, I have been in discussions about this and would hear the argument that women's jeans are different than men's jeans, so it's ok for women to wear women's jeans. I have always stood with my teachings, and as a teenager, I sort of studied it out, but not in detail, and concluded that the teachings I grew up with were correct.
Just recently I had this discussion with a friend of mine, and it was pointed out to me that in the Bible times everyone wore robes, and so there had to be a distinct difference between the women's robes and the men's robes in order for this scripture to mean anything. Here is what a couple of Bible dictionaries on my Power Bible CD have to say.
The chief garments of the Hebrews were the tunic or inner garment, and the mantle or outer garment. These seem to have constituted a "change of Rainment," Jg 14:13; 19:1-30; Ac 9:39. The tunic was of linen, and was worn next to the skin, fitting close to the body; it had armholes, and sometimes wide and open sleeves, and reached below the knees; that worn by females reached to the ankles. (American Tract Society Dictionary)
We shall first describe the robes which were common to the two sexes, and then those which were peculiar to women. (1) The inner garment was the most essential article of dress. It was a closely-fitting garment, resembling in form and use our shirt, though unfortunately translate "coat" in the Authorized Version. The material of which it was made was either wool, cotton or linen. It was without sleeves, and reached only to the knee. Another kind reached to the wrists and ankles. It was in either case kept close to the body by a girdle, and the fold formed by the overlapping of the robe served as an inner pocket. A person wearing the inner garment alone was described as naked. (2) There was an upper or second tunic, the difference being that it was longer than the first. (3) the linen cloth appears to have been a wrapper of fine linen, which might be used in various ways, but especially as a night-shirt.
The dress of the women differed from that of the men in regard to the outer garment, the inner garment being worn equally by both sexes. Among their distinctive robes we find a kind of shawl, light summer dresses of handsome appearance and ample dimensions, and gay holiday dresses. The garments of females were terminated by an ample border of fringe (skirts, Authorized Version), which concealed the feet. (Smith’s Bible Dictionary)
The dress of the women differed from that of the men in regard to the outer garment, the inner garment being worn equally by both sexes. Among their distinctive robes we find a kind of shawl, light summer dresses of handsome appearance and ample dimensions, and gay holiday dresses. The garments of females were terminated by an ample border of fringe (skirts, Authorized Version), which concealed the feet. (Smith’s Bible Dictionary)
So we see by this that the robes were different in length, and also the fringe being only on the women's robes. Also, women's robes were more beautiful, and colorful than the men's robes, from what I gather from what is said here. So, we see a DISTINCT noticeable difference in the dress of the genders in the Bible days.
Let's take a look at modern day dress for a moment. Womens' jeans are made different then mens. The cut is obviously different, especially in the designer jeans, to highlight the woman's figure. The zippers are generally shorter, the waist band sits lower, and the button/snap and zipper are usually on the opposite side as the mens jeans. Sometimes the women's jeans are different colors while the men's jeans are normally just the blues, black, and sometimes white or khaki. However, I don't see any distinct differences, aside of color. If I were to hold up a pair of womens' jeans in one hand and a pair of mens jeans in the other hand (of the same color) a person standing several feet away possibly could not tell the difference. For the most part, a closer look is needed. And for the most part, a pair of "girls'" jeans are decoarated with girly things and colors, while boys jeans are either not decorated at all or have boyish designs, but the real issue here is not really color, or design but the one little word in the scripture that I feel a lot of times is overlooked.
It's that little word "PERTAIN." What does this word mean?
per·tain [pər táyn] (past and past participle per·tained, present participle per·tain·ing, 3rd person present singular per·tains)
vi
1. have relevance: to have relevance, reference, or a connection to something
2. be appropriate: to be appropriate or suitable
3. be part or belong: to be part of something or belong to something, especially as an attribute or accessory
[14th century. Via French < Latin pertinere , literally "hold to" < tenere "hold, keep"]
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
vi
1. have relevance: to have relevance, reference, or a connection to something
2. be appropriate: to be appropriate or suitable
3. be part or belong: to be part of something or belong to something, especially as an attribute or accessory
[14th century. Via French < Latin pertinere , literally "hold to" < tenere "hold, keep"]
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
pertain (v)
relate, refer to, connect to, apply to, belong to, affect
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
relate, refer to, connect to, apply to, belong to, affect
Encarta ® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1998-2005 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.
From Webster himself. Pertain means associated with. In America, from the very beginning, pants/jeans have been associated with the man, skirts/dresses have been associated with the woman. Society has so degraded itself that anything and everything can and will be justified however "wrong" it may be. Please, don't get me wrong. I am just sharing what I have found in this little study and I'm just going to let God take it from here. I am not condemning any woman for wearing jeans, I am simply taking the principle found in God's word and expounding on it, trying to found out what was really meant by it, and how does it apply to us today. God will lead a searching heart and show them exactly what He wants for their lives from the smallest issues (like what to wear) to the bigger issues (like who to marry). I believe He uses others as tools, and that is all I intend for this post to be: a tool to be used by God to show someone His divine will for them on this issue. I for one, after researching this out, must retain my convictions, and continue to joyfully wear what I feel God would have me to wear.
God bless each of you and thank you for listening to my thoughts on this issue that is fast becoming an issue in my church circles. We MUST NOT judge one who lets down on their standards because standards are not what constitutes salvation. We must allow God to deal with the person and allow HIM to show them His will, not dictate what we think His will is.
Now, I'm going to shut up before I start saying things that haven't been thought out well and come across the wrong way ;) Hope everyone has a great week!!!!
Until next time,
Esther
P.S. I have pics. of the tables and since I don't have school any more this week, will do my best to get them on here in the next couple of days. Stay tuned!!!!

13 comments:
Enjoyed this...Paul and I were just talking about some of these things last night. Very well thought out and easy to read. Job well done!
I appreciate what you had to say Esther, and agree with you on it. One thing in connection with this that has been concerning me also is, mothers putting pants on their little girls. The Bible says we're to train them in the way they should go, and if it's something the mothers shouldn't/wouldn't do, why promote it? I do know that it's hard to find outfits without them sometimes, especially during the winter months, but do they not make the long tights anymore? I'm not wanting to offend with my comments either, but like I said, it has concerned me. Thanks for taking the time to do the study and for posting it.
God bless!
Its only fair to post the critcal comments and not just the positive.In any kind of debate or discussion or study in which the author ask for comments critical and positive comments are always out in the open. So in all fairness to the ones who read this study and and post I believe all comments should posted. Just my 2cents worth.
Anonymous,
I didn't say I wouldn't post any comments from "the other side" I said I wouldn't post any critical comments. A person can disagree without being critical. As blog owner, it's to my own discretion as to whether the comment is critical, or merely "from the other side." "Stone throwing" or "finger pointing" or any other accusatory comments is what I would consider critical. Not comments that disagree with what I said.
Thanks for commenting and putting in your 2 cents, however, it would have been better if I would have known to whom to credit this comment.
Esther
Well said. I, too, Diane, have wondered about the pants on little girls. I've never had a little girl so I don't know that I can 'speak' freely, but it's something I can't quite figure it out. I understand playing out in the snow etc but I don't understand dressing them for church. Maybe if we didn't have heat in the church lol! I love it when I see a little girl who looks like a little girl. Doesn't have to be frilly, which I like, but I have seen some mom's do a great job of dressing them with skirts with legging's or tights and they look so adorable. Once again, I don't have a girl, but it is something that I have seen more recently and wondered about too. I'm not saying I wouldn't let my kid wear sweats or outfits with legs in them around the house especially at a young age. I especially enjoy seeing little girls look like little girls in church ;) I admire those who take the time to do that. Their kids look so feminine. Okay, enough said.
Do to the sensative nature of the topic and the fine line in which some of them represent I wish to remain anonymous, as to not endanger or discourage or in any other way hurt or misrepresent anyone. If I post thoughts or suggestions they are of my own thoughts and studies of Gods Word. some may be negative and some may be positive but will be used to help this discusion be a non-biased but well versed topic according to Gods Word and and the instructions of our Christian forefathers
This is the first time that I have been to your blog! I appreciate your study and for sharing with us. I also love dressing my little girls up to look like little girls! :)
I really appreciated your comments on my blog the other day, they really encouraged me when I needed it! So I have kept my eye out to see if you had a blog! Glad to have found it! :)
I've just recently found your post and had to re-read this message a couple of times and do some studying of my own before deciding to respond. First, I was also raised with the same ideals. Second, I found that what I wore neither helped nor hindered my relationship with God - unless my attitude was reverent or rebellious. Last, I have heard many sermons preached from "one" verse taken completely out of context and used solely for the purpose of supporting an agenda.
With that said, I believe the context of Deut. 22:5 could mean that it is an abomination to God for a woman to dress as a man (to be mistaken as a man) or for a man to dress as a woman (with the intent of appearing as a woman) - ie: cross dressing. How about the following verses found later in the same chapter?
11 “You shall not wear a garment of different sorts, such as wool and linen mixed together.
12 “You shall make tassels on the four corners of the clothing with which you cover yourself.
I would challenge you to serch through your closet and study your labels to see if you have "garments of different sorts mixed together" and do your garments have "tassels on the four corners with which to cover yourself?" I dare say that these two verses have been tossed out because they do not fit well into our American culture. Besides if we were to look at the beginning of America the men actually dressed much different than they do today...depending on their social stature. The simple fact is that men's wardrobes were 'allowed' by religion to progress or change while for whatever reasons the progression of women's wardrobes lagged behind. I strongly disagree that wearing a skirt vs. jeans is going to get you any closer to heaven or any clearer communication with God.
I also enjoy seeing a little girl dressed frilly and feminine. I also enjoy seeing little boys in suits and dress shoes with matching ties and whatever the pocket flags are called. And I have to wonder....why the focus on what females wear? (young or old)
I have walked through the fire (actually am still in the fire). I know that God walks with me, that he is holding me up, giving me strength to endure, granting me courage to keep running the race set before me. I know whom I have believed, and am pursuaded that he is able! God is bigger than the box we, as humans, try to put Him in. Don't limit God by using the Bible to support an agenda, rather, focus on the reason He came, why He CHOSE to die - focus on reconciling people's hearts with God - not their garments with one miscontrued verse.
In God We Trust,
Trina
Trina,
I want you to know that I got your comment, and I will post it when I get a chance to let everyone know it's here because I want everyone to read your thoughts. You gave me a lot to think about. Could you give me your email address, or email me from my profile? Would be great to discuss this further, if you want to, and maybe get your thoughts on other issues I've been studying out.
Thanks for commenting.
Esther
I agree with Trina that there are other things in Deuteronomy that were prohibited that we holiness people do not preach against (like the mixing of types of fabrics, etc.) However, it is my belief that while a lot of Deuteronomy was given to the children of Israel just for that particular time in history, the difference comes when something is stated to be an "abomination." When something is stated to be an abomination to God, then an abomination never changes. It is an abomination for women to dress like men and men to dress like women. Therefore, that statement was not just meant for that particular era for those particular people, but rather as an ongoing standard to live up to if you are going to be honoring God.
We must keep in mind that our dress standard is not what we should base salvation on. It is not what the Bible bases it on, but the Bible says that others will KNOW that we are followers of Christ by our LOVE not by our clothing. We dare not judge someone by how they dress, but rather by their fruits. Sometimes the sweetest most loving and forgiving people don't have the dress standards of the Holiness movement, but they have something that is more important, and that is a close relationship with God. God will lead a person to dress exactly how He wants them to dress, and it is between that person and God ALONE as to their state of salvation. As holiness people, we have to be careful not to judge others by the standards we have been raised with, no matter if that person was raised with those same standards or not. God's word says that we will "know them by their fruits". If a person is following God, their life, NOT their standards, will be the proof we need to look for.
Esther
P.S. Don't get me wrong. The standards the Holiness Church holds are by no means wrong, where I feel "we" have erred is in the ephasis we have put on a persons salvation based on their standards. May God help us to be more like Him, and less focused on what others wear.
By the way, I do know plenty of Christians who do not dress the way I do. =)
Esther ~ I agree with your last comment very much.
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